Mahtuuko vävy tupaan?
Runosong type in the classification of SKVR, the Finnish Literature Society’s runosong corpus
In English: Does the son-in-law fit in the house? (a translation; the archive names the type in Finnish only)
| Filed under | Häärunot (wedding songs) › Morsiamen kotona |
|---|---|
| Poems | 114 |
| Verses | 6,191 |
| Collection places | 25 |
| Collected | 1830s to 1930s |
| Collectors | A. A. Borenius · Elias Lönnrot · Uuno Karttunen · Volmari Porkka · D. E. D. Europaeus · A. E. Ahlqvist · K. Karjalainen · A. D. Neovius · Kaarle Krohn · O. Relander |
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The archive’s description
Written by the editors of the SKVR type index and quoted as it stands, in Finnish.
Kehotetaan: Viekää/Tuokaa vävy tupaan (sama kehotus Vävyn virressä muutenkin). Ydinaihe ihmettely: Mahtuuko/Ei mahu/Ei sovi vävy tupahe ilman orren ottamatta, kamoan kohottamatta, sivuseinän siirtämättä jne. Joskus selitetään: Vävy on peätähä pitempi, korvallista korkeampi, ja lopuksi voidaan todeta: jo tuli, jo mahtui. Inkerissä vastataan joskus sulhasen puolesta, ettei veli ole puiden suuruinen (esim. IV1 1262, IV2 2313). Pohjoisessa jatkona Häätupa.
Where it was collected
Collection places of the poems, with the number of poems of this type from each. A place may be where the song was written down or where the singer came from.
- Repola (18)
- Vuokkiniemi (15)
- Lempaala (9)
- Suistamo (9)
- Suojärvi (9)
- Ilomantsi (7)
- Uhtua (7)
- Kaprio (5)
- Kiimaisjärvi (4)
- Kontokki (4)
- Narvusi (4)
- Soikkola (4)
- Liperi (3)
- Vuole (3)
- Kattila (2)
- Moloskovitsa (2)
- Kurkijoki (1)
- Metsäpirtti (1)
- Pistojärvi (1)
- Porajärvi (1)
- Rukajärvi (1)
- Sakkola (1)
- Seiskari (1)
- Suomussalmi (1)
- Tuupovaara (1)
When it was collected
| Decade | Poems |
|---|---|
| 1830s | 9 |
| 1840s | 10 |
| 1850s | 7 |
| 1860s | 1 |
| 1870s | 19 |
| 1880s | 17 |
| 1890s | 24 |
| 1900s | 12 |
| 1910s | 11 |
| 1920s | 3 |
| 1930s | 1 |
Example poems
The opening verse of one poem from each of the ten places with the most poems of this type: the first such poem in the archive’s order. Each links to the whole poem. A poem can be filed under several types, so its opening verse may belong to another song.
- Mi tuo väki tulou SKVR II 484. — Repola
- Toivoin tulen! tulovakse, SKVR I3 1573. — Vuokkiniemi
- Mahtuuko vävy tuppoane SKVR V2 1300. — Lempaala
- *Mammoiseni, kantajaini kysy* SKVR VII2 2809. — Suistamo
- Neitšyt Moaria emoni, SKVR VII1 126. — Suojärvi
- Luulin tuulen tuulevaksi, SKVR VII2 2869. — Ilomantsi
- Toivoin tuulen tuulovakse, SKVR I3 1587. — Uhtua
- Tänä aamuna varhain SKVR IV1 1471. — Kaprio
- Pissim pihlajat vedeȟe, SKVR I3 1562. — Kiimaisjärvi
- Meren rannan roikovaksi, SKVR I3 1567. — Kontokki
Other types the same poems are filed under
The archive can file one poem under several types. These are the types most often given to poems of this type, with the number of poems they share.
Content-based similar types
Several methods each rank the song types whose poems resemble this type's poems; the combined ranking merges their lists. The first 20 are listed here.
- Mahtuuko miniä tupaan (Will there be room for the daughter-in-law?)
- Tuntuu tuomi muista puista, vävy muista vierahista (The bird cherry stands out among trees, the son-in-law among guests)
- Istuttakaa vävyistäni selin seinään siniseen (Seat My Son-in-Law with His Back to the Blue Wall)
- Kovin haukkui suuri koira (The big dog barked loudly)
- Nouse rytty reen perästä (Rise Up, Sluggard, from the Sleigh)
- Sulhanen tervehtii morsiamen kotia (Groom Greets the Bride's Home)
- Kummalla on somemmat silmät, kumman varsi valkeampi (Which one has prettier eyes, whose form is fairer)
- Ken valehteli veljen tyhjin tulleen? (Who lied that the brother came empty-handed?)
- Sulho, osoittele ostettusi (Bridegroom, show off your purchase)
- Tuokaa tulta tuohisella (Bring Fire with Birch Bark)
- Luulin puuron puita tuovan (I thought it was wood for porridge)
- Sulhon turkki (The groom's fur coat)
- Viitta on kuuttaren kutoma (Cloak Woven by Moonlight)
- Luuletko ison kotiin vietävän (Do you think father is being taken home?)
- Luulin tuulen tuulevan (I thought the wind was blowing)
- Kylyvirsi (Sauna incantation)
- Hyvä mutso, kaunis mutso (Good bride, beautiful bride)
- Ihmetupa (House of wonders)
- Luulet kuuksi lähteväsi (You think you're leaving for a month)
- Jo sain sijan sirkulleni (I Found a Nest for My Siskin)
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Sources: the type’s name, filing and description come from the SKVR type index of the Finnish Literature Society (SKS); the counts, places, decades and collectors are counted from the poems on RunoVerse.