Meie ja teie poisid
Runosong type in the classification of ERAB, the Estonian Folklore Archives’ runosong database
In English: Our boys and your boys (a translation; the archive names the type in Estonian only)
| Filed under | Laulud noorrahva elust (songs of young people's lives) › Poisid |
|---|---|
| Poems | 210 |
| Verses | 4,618 |
| Collection places | 72 |
| Collected | 1840s to 1940s |
| Collectors | Mihkel (Tori) Ostrov · Rudolf Tamm · Karl Voldemar Rosenstrauch · Johan (Juhan) Kala · Richard Viidalepp (Viidebaum) · Mihkel Pehka · Ernst Kitzberg · Oskar Philipp Kallas · Mihkel Leppik · Madis Liedenberg |
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The archive’s description
Written by the editors of the ERAB type index and quoted as it stands, in Estonian.
ERlA 1759, tuntud üle maa, väga populaarne. Esineb kahes arenduses: A. Kirikuteel — stabiilne, väljakujunenud arendus; B-red. alla on koondatud juhuslikumad arendused. Laul esineb nii kahe- kui ka ühepoolselt (vt. 1888). Siia liitub pilkemotiive väga laialt (tantsulauludest, kosjateemadest, a
Where it was collected
Collection places of the poems, with the number of poems of this type from each. A place may be where the song was written down or where the singer came from.
- Tarvastu (14)
- Halliste (10)
- Paistu (10)
- Karksi (9)
- Viljandi (9)
- Jõhvi (8)
- Simuna (7)
- Viru-Nigula (7)
- Ambla (6)
- Koeru (6)
- Kolga-Jaani (6)
- Urvaste (6)
- Haljala (5)
- Karula (5)
- Viru-Jaagupi (5)
- Väike-Maarja (5)
- Helme (4)
- Lüganuse (4)
- Narva l. (4)
- Otepää (4)
- Põlva (4)
- Hanila (3)
- Häädemeeste (3)
- Järva-Jaani (3)
- Karuse (3)
- Kodavere (3)
- Kuusalu (3)
- Põltsamaa (3)
- Pöide (3)
- Räpina (3)
- Rõuge (3)
- Vigala (3)
- välismaa (3)
- Jaani (2)
- Kanepi (2)
- Karja (2)
- Kursi (2)
- Laiuse (2)
- Maarja-Magdaleena (2)
- Mustjala (2)
- Paide (2)
- Palamuse (2)
- Pilistvere (2)
- Rannu (2)
- Rapla (2)
- Sangaste (2)
- Suure-Jaani (2)
- Tori (2)
- Vaivara (2)
- Varbla (2)
- Äksi (2)
- Haapsalu (1)
- Hargla (1)
- Iisaku (1)
- Järva-Madise (1)
- Kaarma (1)
- Kadrina (1)
- Keila (1)
- Kose (1)
- Kullamaa (1)
…and 12 more places
- Kõpu (1)
- Lääne-Nigula (1)
- Mihkli (1)
- Nõo (1)
- Peetri (1)
- Tallinn (1)
- Tartu (1)
- Torma (1)
- Türi (1)
- Vastseliina (1)
- Viljandi l. (1)
- Võnnu (1)
When it was collected
| Decade | Poems |
|---|---|
| 1840s | 1 |
| 1860s | 1 |
| 1870s | 16 |
| 1880s | 63 |
| 1890s | 61 |
| 1900s | 18 |
| 1910s | 13 |
| 1920s | 4 |
| 1930s | 21 |
| 1940s | 1 |
| year not recorded | 11 |
Example poems
The opening verse of one poem from each of the ten places with the most poems of this type: the first such poem in the archive’s order. Each links to the whole poem. A poem can be filed under several types, so its opening verse may belong to another song.
- Mis sa sitikas sirised, kaske ERA II 123, 19/21 (3) — Tarvastu
- Pannin tulda tupe sisse, EÜS XI 321/2 (140) — Halliste
- Kus olid kuulda kuulsad poisid E 11894 (7) — Paistu
- Külatüdruku sõsare EKmS 8° 2, 97/102 (17) — Karksi
- Vat kus poisid, mis on meile. ERA II 251, 559/60 (27) — Viljandi
- Kaukvere mehed tulivad: ERA II 125, 334 (17) — Jõhvi
- Olgu muist siis Muuga valda E 41357 (9) — Simuna
- Värbu vaatas, väänas pääda; EKmS 4° 1, 105 (160) — Viru-Nigula
- Meie küla noored mehed E 7878 (13) — Ambla
- Essu-lessu, lehed olid laiad; E 7186 (46) — Koeru
Other types the same poems are filed under
The archive can file one poem under several types. These are the types most often given to poems of this type, with the number of poems they share.
Content-based similar types
Several methods each rank the song types whose poems resemble this type's poems; the combined ranking merges their lists. The first 20 are listed here.
- Oleks see mees minu! (If only this man were mine!)
- Omad ja võõrad poisid (Own and foreign boys)
- Oma ja võõra küla poisid (Boys of Own and Stranger's Village)
- Venna kiitus - laitus (Brother's praise and blame)
- Oma ja võõra valla poisid (Boys from own and foreign parishes)
- Võõra küla poiste pilge (Mockery by boys from another village)
- Ammu lubatud (Long-promised bride)Filed on the same poems: Õlad õeksed
- Oleks (If only (wish song))
- Oles see mees minula (If that man were mine)
- Venna kiitus (Brother's Praise)
- Virus vihtlemas (Making bath whisks in Viru)
- Küla laitus (Village reproach)
- Oleks see mees minul (Would This Man Be Mine)
- Ühes sööme - ühes joome (Together we eat, together we drink)
- Tore sõit (Splendid ride)
- Neiu laitus - peiu kiitus (Maiden blamed, groom praised)
- Vennad ei võta (Brothers won't take her)
- Meie poiste kiitus (Praise of our boys)
- Mehed kui metsapullid (Men like wild bulls)
- Poisi sajatus, kui ta neiut põlgab (A boy's curse when he scorns a maiden)
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Sources: the type’s name, filing and description come from the type index of ERAB, the Estonian Folklore Archives’ runosong database; the counts, places, decades and collectors are counted from the poems on RunoVerse.