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Põlvist põdema

Runosong type in the classification of ERAB, the Estonian Folklore Archives’ runosong database

In English: Ailing in the knees (a translation; the archive names the type in Estonian only)

Filed underLaulud abielust (songs about marriage) › Abielumehe põli
Poems436
Verses12,680
Collection places91
Collected1840s to 1940s
CollectorsKarl Voldemar Rosenstrauch · Mihkel (Tori) Ostrov · Karl Viljak · Gustav Vilberg (Vilbaste) · Oskar Philipp Kallas · Peeter Penna · Hans Siimer · Richard Viidalepp (Viidebaum) · Helene Maasen-Varik · Karp (Carp) Kuusik

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The archive’s description

Written by the editors of the ERAB type index and quoted as it stands, in Estonian.

Põlvist põdema: VK VIII 29, VK IX 24, VK XI 374, ERlA 2986; Haige noorik – VK VI 30, VK VII 266, VK X 16; Tõbine naine – VK III 167, VK IV 226, VK V 389, ERlV IV 61.

Where it was collected

Collection places of the poems, with the number of poems of this type from each. A place may be where the song was written down or where the singer came from.

…and 31 more places

When it was collected

DecadePoems
1840s1
1850s1
1860s3
1870s17
1880s118
1890s137
1900s33
1910s49
1920s32
1930s28
1940s1
year not recorded16

Example poems

The opening verse of one poem from each of the ten places with the most poems of this type: the first such poem in the archive’s order. Each links to the whole poem. A poem can be filed under several types, so its opening verse may belong to another song.

Other types the same poems are filed under

The archive can file one poem under several types. These are the types most often given to poems of this type, with the number of poems they share.

TypePoems in common
Tõbine naine409
Must naine11
Tule mulle!4
Laisk naine4
Seni heinamaa ilus3
Tunnen tuima neiu3
Tunnen tuima3
Kosilane laisas talus3
Kuulus kuhjalooja3
Võta naine töölt3
Hollandi sulane2
Hea ja halb mees2

Content-based similar types

Several methods each rank the song types whose poems resemble this type's poems; the combined ranking merges their lists. The first 20 are listed here.

  1. Laisa naise tapmine (Killing the Lazy Wife)
  2. Laisk naine - tõbine naine (Lazy wife and sickly wife)
  3. Ema ja noore naise ajal (In a mother's and young wife's time)
  4. Lombakas naine (Limping woman)
  5. Pisikene naine Narvast (Little Woman from Narva)
  6. Naine Narvast (Woman from Narva)
  7. Laisk naine (The Lazy Woman)
  8. Ära pühal püüa naist (Don't Court a Woman on a Holy Day)
  9. Kärme ketraja (The quick spinner)
  10. Hea ketraja (Good Spinner)
  11. Ema ja naise hooles (In Mother's and Wife's Care)
  12. Pisikene naine uppub heina (Tiny woman drowns in hay)
  13. Võtaks naise, kardab last (He'd take a wife but fears a child)
  14. Eksinud neiu (The Lost Maiden)
  15. Teng, hobu, naine (Money, a horse, a wife)
  16. Seni heinamaa ilus (While the Hayfield Is Beautiful)
  17. Ehted kadunud (Lost Jewelry)
  18. Seni heinamaa ilusa (While the meadow is fair)
  19. Narvast naine (The Woman from Narva)
  20. Miks ei mullu (Why not last year)

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Sources: the type’s name, filing and description come from the type index of ERAB, the Estonian Folklore Archives’ runosong database; the counts, places, decades and collectors are counted from the poems on RunoVerse.