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Kasvatus asjatu

Runosong type in the classification of ERAB, the Estonian Folklore Archives’ runosong database

In English: Upbringing in vain (a translation; the archive names the type in Estonian only)

Filed underLaulud kodust ja lapsepõlvest (songs of home and childhood) › Kasvatus asjata
Poems432
Verses10,035
Collection places93
Collected1860s to 1930s
CollectorsKarl Voldemar Rosenstrauch · Mihkel (Tori) Ostrov · Karl Viljak · Oskar Philipp Kallas · Jüri Välbe · Artur Martin · Richard Viidalepp (Viidebaum) · Peeter Penna · Helene Maasen-Varik · Tamberg, H.

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The archive’s description

Written by the editors of the ERAB type index and quoted as it stands, in Estonian.

Kasvatus asjatu: VK III 17, VK IV 22, VK VI 438, VK VII 289, VK IX 291, VK XI 223, ERlA 1199: 4, ERlV V 42–43.

Where it was collected

Collection places of the poems, with the number of poems of this type from each. A place may be where the song was written down or where the singer came from.

…and 33 more places

When it was collected

DecadePoems
1860s4
1870s21
1880s114
1890s131
1900s31
1910s39
1920s37
1930s34
year not recorded21

Example poems

The opening verse of one poem from each of the ten places with the most poems of this type: the first such poem in the archive’s order. Each links to the whole poem. A poem can be filed under several types, so its opening verse may belong to another song.

Other types the same poems are filed under

The archive can file one poem under several types. These are the types most often given to poems of this type, with the number of poems they share.

TypePoems in common
Kasvatus asjata321
Joodikust mees44
Memme vaev38
Joodikul mehel29
Ema kasvatus asjata28
Nekrutilaul15
Asjata kasvatatud12
Joodikul7
Vara vaeslapseks7
Joodikule6
Ema haual6
Ema asjata kasvatand5

Content-based similar types

Several methods each rank the song types whose poems resemble this type's poems; the combined ranking merges their lists. The first 20 are listed here.

  1. Joodikul saab nälga näha (The Drunkard Will Go Hungry)
  2. Asjata kasvanud - soldatiks saanud (Raised in vain — become a soldier)
  3. Joodikule (Married to a drunkard)
  4. Kasvatus asjata - soldatiks (Raised in Vain for a Soldier)
  5. Memme vaev (Mother's hardship)
  6. Asjata kasvatatud - joodikule (Raised in Vain for a Drunkard)
  7. Tugi sai sellel, kes ei tundnud (Support came to the one who knew it not)
  8. Asjata kasvatatud - soldatiks (Raised in Vain for the Army)
  9. Joodikul (For the drunkard)
  10. Ema ei viind vesile (Mother didn't take her to the water)
  11. Joodiku naine (The drunkard's wife)
  12. Viljapeks (Grain threshing)
  13. Mõtlesid toeks tulevat (Thought help was coming)
  14. Joodikul mehel (The Drunkard Husband)
  15. Mis sai memmele minusta (What became of mother's little one)
  16. Lapse tänu (Child's gratitude)
  17. Joodik mees (The Drunkard)
  18. Halvasti kasvatatud (Badly brought up)
  19. Kasvatas asjata, soldatiks (Reared in vain, taken for a soldier)
  20. Marjad emale (Berries for mother)

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Sources: the type’s name, filing and description come from the type index of ERAB, the Estonian Folklore Archives’ runosong database; the counts, places, decades and collectors are counted from the poems on RunoVerse.